1. gorick

    gorick Ride Organizer

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    There has been so much negativity against the NCC- Nature Conservancy Of Canada in the Haldimand-Norfolk township which includes areas like St Williams and Turkey Point that a meeting has been called for. Our MPP Toby Barrett and the Norfolk Voice and many others have organized a meeting for the people to express their concerns. There will be speakers, including OFTR`S Dave Grummett ON topics ranging from how the conservation authorities from many groups are over stepping their boundaries, to how to solve environmental problems without reducing human freedoms, to how local groups are attempting to work with conservation authorities.
    This will be at the Port Rowan Community Centre,14 College Avenue, Port Rowan, Ontario.
    I suspect this to be an extremely interesting evening with some strong feelings being presented by the people who feel they have been duped or taken advantage of by the NCC and by the average Joe who just wants to go hunting where he went with his Dad when he was a kid, but now there is a fence!

    Tuesday November 5th. Doors open at 6:30.
    See you there.
    Rick
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    Re: Info meeting

    What day ?
  3. Joe

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    It shows Nov 5th at 630
  4. Randy_K

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    Its been edited.... THANKS
  5. dirtbill

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    NCC- Nature Conservancy Of Canada are the scumbags who stole the Northumberland, they are masters of political manipulation, outright lies and dirty tricks. They also have a huge warchest and are partly funded by your own government to steal from you and me. What a screwed up system eh?
  6. Smitty

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    Any update on the meeting?
  7. 3BeeJay3

    3BeeJay3 ODSC Executive

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    Also Posted in the linkage email thread:


    Dave Grummett, Myself and Doug Kent of LVDR attended the Norfolk County Road Allowance Meeting last nite(at least 3-400 people there).
    We met some Ontario MPP's, their staff and a few other knowledgeable folks last nite. We gained some good insights on how to handle this from a political point of view. Dave is on it.
    Also got some really interesting and informative insights on land, municipal and ecological issues from presentations by Elizabeth Marshall of the Ontario Landowners Association and Elizabeth Nickson http://elizabethnickson.com/
  8. gorick

    gorick Ride Organizer

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    From a another view I was surprised at the meeting in the way that it was very factual and completely over the heads of many of the people there. The first gentleman was from a company out west that is a think tank that fights for the everyday people against bull crap legislation. That is all he said.
    Elizabeth Nixon then spoke. She wrote the book called Eco-Fascists and she has a lot of knowledge on how groups like the NCC use their money and power to get what they want from organizations like the MNR and your local municipal governments.
    Elizabeth Marshall is a very smart lady and she did make some very good points but by the time she was done going from section 5.6 to section 7.8 referring back to sub section C, paragraph 9, including the third line. Well, you get the picture.
    Dave Grummett did a very good job of telling people who we were but I do not feel he made a real strong connection between our clubs need for areas to ride and the citizens need to stop greedy Ritch people from acquiring land.
    So my take on it was that the MNR and other organizations like them including municipal governments have been overstepping their powers and the people need to say NO, they will not do what they are told because the law is there to support the property owner. The problem is that no one knows all the laws and policies including the people that are trying to enforce them. NCC and the these other groups are using endangered species and other such labels to aquire land and influence our municipalities and to access programs where by they are not under the same rules as the average person. This way they get out of paying taxes and other measures which then undermines our basic tax structures snowballing the decline of the local area and the economy.
    It was very informative but one thing was made clear. It will be one hell of a fight to try and stop this unwanted progression.
  9. 3BeeJay3

    3BeeJay3 ODSC Executive

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    Also, one of the suggestions I've heard is that the NCC may really be acquiring large tracts of land to use to sell carbon credits. If so, they will possibly earn many millions of $$$ doing this...........
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    It's not just locally, it's world wide. 'Environmental Nazi's' are a disease that will be tough to stop. I started reading about Elizabeth Nickson's book Eco-Fascists, the reviews, blogs, etc. and it's pretty scary what is happening to our land.

    Property rights we took for granted are under attack.

    Scary sh*t.